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*Optimal (Manhole): 10/10
 
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==Any%==
 
==Any%==
 
===Safe===
 
===Safe===
{{#ev:youtube|6lQk6Z5Gv54|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lQk6Z5Gv54}}
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{{#ev:youtube|I4AYSCazJiQ|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4AYSCazJiQ}}
 
'''Notes'''
 
'''Notes'''
*Uses [[Tricks#Invisible_Barrel | Invisible Barrel]] and [[Tricks#Beetle_Clashing | Beetle Clashing]] to perform the [[Tricks#Wrong_Warp | Wrong Warp]].
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*Uses [[DKC2 Tricks#Invisible_Barrel | Invisible Barrel]] and [[DKC2 Tricks#Beetle_Clashing | Beetle Clashing]] to perform the [[DKC2 Tricks#Wrong_Warp | Wrong Warp]].
 
*If you struggle with the Wrong Warp but feel like warpless is shameful, there is an easy method that uses Dixie near the bottom of the page.
 
*If you struggle with the Wrong Warp but feel like warpless is shameful, there is an easy method that uses Dixie near the bottom of the page.
 
*Proceed through the invincibility section however you see fit.
 
*Proceed through the invincibility section however you see fit.
 
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*Note that rolling through the flitters at the eagle pit while invincible can sometimes eat your jump, which would lead to a death.
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*See "MORE STRATS" section for an alternative safe eagle pit which doesn't grab the invisibility barrel.
'''ALTERNATIVE SAFE EAGLE PIT'''
 
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{{#ev:youtube|QzKJWTUKfCQ|560||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzKJWTUKfCQ}}
 
*This is a good way to get across the eagle section safely without the use of the invincible barrel. While the invincible barrel is the best and safest way for newcomers, the eagle bounce is a faster way to get across without much direction needed.
 
*For the first eagle you want to roll and jump, hold right after the first bounce then when landing on the 2nd eagle, tap right to bounce on the third then hold right continuously until you land.
 
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*There is a '''VERY BIG''' emphasis on getting the throw correct in the beginning, otherwise the IDs won't align and you will miss the trick.
 
*There is a '''VERY BIG''' emphasis on getting the throw correct in the beginning, otherwise the IDs won't align and you will miss the trick.
 
*If you still have trouble with the wrong warp, get the [[Miscellaneous#DKC2_Lua_Scripts | DKC2 Lua ID Script]] and play with the timing yourself.
 
*If you still have trouble with the wrong warp, get the [[Miscellaneous#DKC2_Lua_Scripts | DKC2 Lua ID Script]] and play with the timing yourself.
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*If you have to break the DK barrel to get your Kong back make sure to wait on the platform until the Kannon fires a barrel. If you don't the warp won't work.
 
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'''DIXIE WRONG WARP TUTORIAL (EXTRA SAFE)'''
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{{#ev:youtube|ANAG1W96bW4|560||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAG1W96bW4}}
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*Tutorial by Crypticjacknife
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<br>
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'''Things That Matter'''
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*The Cannonball - Grab it on your way through and meander on over to the other side of the cannon. If you aren't consistent with jumping onto the cannon platform without activating it, you can always just jump above it and throw it onto the platform, it'll make it and it won't screw it up. What is imperative though is that the cannonball MUST be at least halfway across the platform, so you need to kind of chance it by throwing it.
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*The Three Beetles - Run as far onto the platform as you can, kill the first with your cannonball, then jump on third, and swap to Dixie as soon as you hit the ground. Grab the one you just knocked down and clash it with the other. Now they will be reset. Run into the one you aren't holding when it is recovering and you will be holding nothing.
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*The Throw - You want the cannon to be off screen as much as possible during this whole trick. Go to just left of the cannonball, turn left, throw. No need to swap to Diddy to get the trick working, but it is better to have Diddy in front for [[Rambi Rumble]].
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<br>
  
 
===Optimal (Manhole)===
 
===Optimal (Manhole)===
{{#ev:youtube|vHHfZhnoMTg|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHHfZhnoMTg}}
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{{#ev:youtube|soKaC5UZlDs|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKaC5UZlDs}}
 
'''Additions'''
 
'''Additions'''
*RNG Roll is always free
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*At 0:11 (1st eagle pit), roll into the water under the 2nd platform, then roll across the next platforms. (Saves ~.45s).
*At 0:09 (1st eagle pit), roll into the water under the 2nd platform, then roll across the next platforms. (Saves ~.45s).
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*At 0:20, roll over the gap between the 2 platforms instead of jumping over it. You must let go of the d-pad for a split second before landing on the first Flitter (Saves ~.25s).
*At 0:18, roll over the gap between the 2 platforms instead of jumping over it. A good way to be consistent with this is to let go of the d-pad for a split second before landing on the first platform, or even before landing on the flitter (Saves ~.25s).
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**Do not buffer your roll or it will fail. This is because buffered rolls have more downwards momentum than non-buffered rolls.
**Do not buffer your roll. Buffered rolls have slightly less horizontal distance than normal rolls.
 
 
*For the 2nd eagle pit right after, do not take the invincibility barrel. Instead, do as shown above (Saves ~4s). Detailed breakdown of this section with visuals cues can be seen below.
 
*For the 2nd eagle pit right after, do not take the invincibility barrel. Instead, do as shown above (Saves ~4s). Detailed breakdown of this section with visuals cues can be seen below.
 
**If you are not comfortable with this method, but feel that taking the invincibility is too slow, go to the More Strats section.
 
**If you are not comfortable with this method, but feel that taking the invincibility is too slow, go to the More Strats section.
*At 0:25, roll from the very edge into the Flitter, and then into the water. Jump out and try to avoid grabbing the chest (Saves ~.65s, or ~.5s with the chest).
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*At 0:27, roll from the very edge into the Flitter, and then into the water. Jump out and try to avoid grabbing the chest (Saves ~.65s, or ~.5s with the chest). Again, don't buffer your initial roll.
*At 0:32, it is possible to not use the jump button on the eagles and still make it. If you want to be semi-safe, only jump on the last one. (Saves ~.1s to ~.2s, depending on how often you jump).
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*At 0:34, it is possible to not use the jump button on the eagles and still make it. (Saves ~.1s to ~.2s, depending on how often you jump).
*At 0:38, manipulate the camera by performing the Klosty wiggle. This will allow you to skip waiting a barrel cycle while carrying the cannonball (Saves ~.75s).
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*At 0:39, perform the Super Sanic strat with the help of a crouch moonwalk. Note that you need to hold Jump off the final vulture to get the required distance.
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*At 0:38, manipulate the camera by performing an Air Moonwalk. This will allow you to skip waiting a barrel cycle while carrying the cannonball (Saves ~.75s).
'''Alternative to Klosty wiggle can be done with a moonwalk - hasn't been frame counted to be slower or faster'''
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*At 0:45, perform Fast Warp (Saves ~.8). A tutorial can be found below.
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[[File:Mudhole.gif]]
 
*Note that the wrong warp setup shown here cuts corners in order to be optimal.
 
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'''Eagle Pit Guide'''
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'''FAST WARP TUTORIAL'''
 
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[[File:MudholeEaglePit.png]]<br>
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{{#ev:youtube|d33c3JHkndI|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d33c3JHkndI}}
 
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'''MORE STRATS'''
 
'''MORE STRATS'''
 
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{{#ev:youtube|wl2XU7VHg4k|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl2XU7VHg4k}}
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{{#ev:youtube|EON5p1XfEu8|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EON5p1XfEu8}}
*For RNG roll, simply roll down to the platforms below. Note that this is prone to failure, and a lot of players opt out of it (Saves ~.2s).
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*For RNG roll, simply roll down to the platforms below (Saves ~.15s).
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**There are 4 frame where this roll is possible. With that being said there is one bad frame where the trick doesn't work placed after the first good frame. This bad frame makes the trick "randomly" fail, hence it's name "RNG roll".
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*For TAS wiggle, perform a quick left-right wiggle after rolling through the second beetle (Saves .15s).
 
*'''The other strats are NOT faster than in the optimal video; they are a good middle ground between safety and speed.'''
 
*'''The other strats are NOT faster than in the optimal video; they are a good middle ground between safety and speed.'''
 
*For the 1st eagle pit, roll under the 3rd platform (Saves ~.2s over safe, loses ~.2s over optimal).
 
*For the 1st eagle pit, roll under the 3rd platform (Saves ~.2s over safe, loses ~.2s over optimal).
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*For Crismas Birds, hold right after the bounce on the first eagle, then when landing on the 2nd eagle, tap right to bounce on the third then hold right continuously until you land.
 
*For the 2nd eagle pit, jump onto the two Mini Neckys at the beginning (Loses ~.15s over optimal). At the end, jump onto the final Mini Necky, instead of jumping over him (Loses ~.25s over optimal). Overall, this is still much faster than taking the invincibility barrel.
 
*For the 2nd eagle pit, jump onto the two Mini Neckys at the beginning (Loses ~.15s over optimal). At the end, jump onto the final Mini Necky, instead of jumping over him (Loses ~.25s over optimal). Overall, this is still much faster than taking the invincibility barrel.
 
*For the midpoint section, roll over the gap between the platforms and avoid grabbing the chest after (Saves ~.4s over safe, loses ~.25s over optimal).
 
*For the midpoint section, roll over the gap between the platforms and avoid grabbing the chest after (Saves ~.4s over safe, loses ~.25s over optimal).
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**Note that it is only 1 frame more lenient than the optimal strat.
 
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'''EAGLE PIT MAP'''
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[[File:MudholeEaglePit.png]]<br>
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</div>
  
 
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'''DIXIE WRONG WARP TUTORIAL (BY CRYPTICJACKNIFE)'''
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'''BACKUPS'''
 
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{{#ev:youtube|ANAG1W96bW4|560||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANAG1W96bW4}}
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{{#ev:youtube|4ykj90lqLfI|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ykj90lqLfI}}
'''Things That Matter'''
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{{#ev:youtube|60f3LeaWfi8|560||https://youtu.be/60f3LeaWfi8}}
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*The Cannonball - Grab it on your way through and meander on over to the other side of the cannon. If you aren't consistent with jumping onto the cannon platform without activating it, you can always just jump above it and throw it onto the platform, it'll make it and it won't screw it up. What is imperative though is that the cannonball MUST be at least halfway across the platform, so you need to kind of chance it by throwing it.
 
 
 
*The Three Beetles - Run as far onto the platform as you can, kill the first with your cannonball, then jump on third, and swap to Dixie as soon as you hit the ground. Grab the one you just knocked down and clash it with the other. Now they will be reset. Run into the one you aren't holding when it is recovering and you will be holding nothing.
 
 
 
*The Throw - You want the cannon to be off screen as much as possible during this whole trick. Go to just left of the cannonball, turn left, throw. No need to swap to Diddy to get the trick working, but it is better to have Diddy in front for [[Rambi Rumble]].
 
 
</div>
 
</div>
 
</div>
 
</div>
 
===Backups===
 
{{#ev:youtube|pf7xQPqIOpc|560||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf7xQPqIOpc}}
 
 
  
 
[[Category:Krazy Kremland]]
 
[[Category:Krazy Kremland]]
 
[[Category:Level]]
 
[[Category:Level]]

Revision as of 20:37, 3 March 2019

Level Details
Game Donkey Kong Country 2
World name Krazy Kremland
Level name Mudhole Marsh
Previous level Rickety Race
Next level Rambi Rumble

Difficulty:

  • Safe: 6/10
  • Optimal (Manhole): 10/10

Any%

Safe

Notes

  • Uses Invisible Barrel and Beetle Clashing to perform the Wrong Warp.
  • If you struggle with the Wrong Warp but feel like warpless is shameful, there is an easy method that uses Dixie near the bottom of the page.
  • Proceed through the invincibility section however you see fit.
  • Note that rolling through the flitters at the eagle pit while invincible can sometimes eat your jump, which would lead to a death.
  • See "MORE STRATS" section for an alternative safe eagle pit which doesn't grab the invisibility barrel.

WRONG WARP TUTORIAL

Throw1.png
Cannonball Throw

  • This is the most important part; it will dictate whether or not you will actually get the trick. There are three beetles on the platform which are walking towards you. The first beetle has an ID1, the 2nd ID2, and the 3rd ID3. The goal is to ensure that the 3rd beetle spawns as ID4; this is where the cannonball comes into play. When the cannonball hits the beetle, the damage sprite will temporarily take the next available ID. For instance, if you've ONLY just seen the first two beetles and haven't loaded the 3rd one (it hasn't walked onto the screen), the damage sprite will take ID3, resulting in the next beetle having ID4. Thus, the throw ensures that the cannonball hits the first beetle BEFORE the 3rd beetle comes onto the screen.
  • If you're having troubles, there are two main reasons. After the initial throw, moving in too slow or too quickly to the right will not give the 3rd beetle its proper ID. Going in right as the cannonball connects is a good cue.


Beetle Clash

  • Just clash roughly where the cannonball is. There isn't a strict position of where you need to be.


Invis1.png
Invisible Barrel

  • Once you have it, walk far enough to the right so you can see the mosquito on the right side of the screen.


Throw2.png
Final Throw

  • There really is no precision on how far left you go in the air, just make sure that the red flower is on the screen and throw the invisible barrel to the left. Additionally, Like other wrong warps, you want to minimize the amount of times you press "right". Land on the beetle to kill it, tap right to just grab the cannonball and then just walk into the cannon.



Additional Info
  • If you still can't do the Diddy wrong warp, then you can check out this video on throws. It demonstrates good throws/movement vs bad throws/early beetle loading.
  • There is a VERY BIG emphasis on getting the throw correct in the beginning, otherwise the IDs won't align and you will miss the trick.
  • If you still have trouble with the wrong warp, get the DKC2 Lua ID Script and play with the timing yourself.
  • If you have to break the DK barrel to get your Kong back make sure to wait on the platform until the Kannon fires a barrel. If you don't the warp won't work.

DIXIE WRONG WARP TUTORIAL (EXTRA SAFE)

  • Tutorial by Crypticjacknife


Things That Matter


  • The Cannonball - Grab it on your way through and meander on over to the other side of the cannon. If you aren't consistent with jumping onto the cannon platform without activating it, you can always just jump above it and throw it onto the platform, it'll make it and it won't screw it up. What is imperative though is that the cannonball MUST be at least halfway across the platform, so you need to kind of chance it by throwing it.
  • The Three Beetles - Run as far onto the platform as you can, kill the first with your cannonball, then jump on third, and swap to Dixie as soon as you hit the ground. Grab the one you just knocked down and clash it with the other. Now they will be reset. Run into the one you aren't holding when it is recovering and you will be holding nothing.
  • The Throw - You want the cannon to be off screen as much as possible during this whole trick. Go to just left of the cannonball, turn left, throw. No need to swap to Diddy to get the trick working, but it is better to have Diddy in front for Rambi Rumble.


Optimal (Manhole)

Additions

  • At 0:11 (1st eagle pit), roll into the water under the 2nd platform, then roll across the next platforms. (Saves ~.45s).
  • At 0:20, roll over the gap between the 2 platforms instead of jumping over it. You must let go of the d-pad for a split second before landing on the first Flitter (Saves ~.25s).
    • Do not buffer your roll or it will fail. This is because buffered rolls have more downwards momentum than non-buffered rolls.
  • For the 2nd eagle pit right after, do not take the invincibility barrel. Instead, do as shown above (Saves ~4s). Detailed breakdown of this section with visuals cues can be seen below.
    • If you are not comfortable with this method, but feel that taking the invincibility is too slow, go to the More Strats section.
  • At 0:27, roll from the very edge into the Flitter, and then into the water. Jump out and try to avoid grabbing the chest (Saves ~.65s, or ~.5s with the chest). Again, don't buffer your initial roll.
  • At 0:34, it is possible to not use the jump button on the eagles and still make it. (Saves ~.1s to ~.2s, depending on how often you jump).
  • At 0:39, perform the Super Sanic strat with the help of a crouch moonwalk. Note that you need to hold Jump off the final vulture to get the required distance.
  • At 0:38, manipulate the camera by performing an Air Moonwalk. This will allow you to skip waiting a barrel cycle while carrying the cannonball (Saves ~.75s).
  • At 0:45, perform Fast Warp (Saves ~.8). A tutorial can be found below.

MORE STRATS

  • For RNG roll, simply roll down to the platforms below (Saves ~.15s).
    • There are 4 frame where this roll is possible. With that being said there is one bad frame where the trick doesn't work placed after the first good frame. This bad frame makes the trick "randomly" fail, hence it's name "RNG roll".
  • For TAS wiggle, perform a quick left-right wiggle after rolling through the second beetle (Saves .15s).
  • The other strats are NOT faster than in the optimal video; they are a good middle ground between safety and speed.
  • For the 1st eagle pit, roll under the 3rd platform (Saves ~.2s over safe, loses ~.2s over optimal).
  • For Crismas Birds, hold right after the bounce on the first eagle, then when landing on the 2nd eagle, tap right to bounce on the third then hold right continuously until you land.
  • For the 2nd eagle pit, jump onto the two Mini Neckys at the beginning (Loses ~.15s over optimal). At the end, jump onto the final Mini Necky, instead of jumping over him (Loses ~.25s over optimal). Overall, this is still much faster than taking the invincibility barrel.
  • For the midpoint section, roll over the gap between the platforms and avoid grabbing the chest after (Saves ~.4s over safe, loses ~.25s over optimal).
    • Note that it is only 1 frame more lenient than the optimal strat.

EAGLE PIT MAP

MudholeEaglePit.png